GUS Daily Digest Mon, 21 Mar 94 9:37 PST Volume 11: Issue 45 Today's Topics: cakewalk - not enough mem cakewalk - not enough mem on your card? CD-ROM Recommendation CDROM DAUGHTERCARD INFO FS5 and Win-OS/2 General MIDI set Gravis Ads in new mags! Yeah! GUS Daily Digest V11 #43 (2 msgs) GUS Daily Digest V11 #44 HELP! Megaem and Novell 7 My MIDI won't come back :( NEC triple spin CD rom note tieing using MidiSoft Recording Session for GUS optifix.zip Patch Banks PCM or DSP Returned mail: Cannot send message for 1 day Sierra's 32 Bit AIL Driver ? wontwork.mid XMI.ARJ Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:02:13 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: cakewalk - not enough mem Cakewalk gives this rather annoying 'There is not enough memory on you soundcard' message if there are program change events on channel 10 (percussion). Often, there seems to be a program change 0 near the start of the track. Delete any program change events on channel 10 and it will play correctly. The trouble arises because Windows has two calls, MidiOutCachePatches and MidiOutCacheDrumPatches to perform patch caching. The former will cache patches for any channel other than 10, and the latter only on channel 10. Cakewalk responds to the error trying to cache a melodic patch on channel 10 by not caching any patches at all. It would be better if it just carried on regardless, or had in-built knowledge that caching melodic patches on channel 10 was not a good idea. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 08:47:41 EST From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 21-Mar-1994 0852" Subject: Re: cakewalk - not enough mem on your card? >I just tested cakewalk (midi prg. for windows) with my GUS. >It's sure a great peace of software BUT, if I try to load a big midi file, >Cakewalk reports 'There's not enough memory on your soundcard to hold all >patches' I don't understand this, because I can play these Midi-Files >with playmidi from dos!? This is the message that gets reported to you when CW gets ANY error from the Windows patch-caching calls. Most likely what happened is that you have a patch specified on the percussion channel (10). Another possibility is that multiple tracks are being sent to the same channel (which is fine) except that more than one track specifies the initial patch for that channel. Burns ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 18:10:00 -0640 From: chris.liu@dscmail.com (Chris Liu) Subject: CD-ROM Recommendation Hi all Gussers. I'm considering on buying a 2x CD-ROM drive but I am totally new to the world of CDs. Which one should I buy and should I use it's own interface card or buy one from Gravis? And while we're on this subject, can you explain how I get sound from the CD through the GUS? I think it involves just plugging it in LINE IN or by the 4 pin connector onto the GUS. Thanks for any information. And last, which CD game should I get!!! ;-> 7th Guest? Dune? Willing to spend around $250 for CD drive and game. Chris --- ~ SPEED 1.40 [NR] ~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:42:41 -0800 From: tkabal@crash.cts.com Subject: CDROM DAUGHTERCARD INFO Can someone please mail me the info and prices on the cdrom daughter cards, or post them to the digest. I want to order the mitsumi daughter card and cannot find any info. Thanks... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:50:41 +0200 (METDST) From: John Peter Jore Subject: FS5 and Win-OS/2 What is the address of the microsoft site where the major update of FS5 is? Also I can not get the windows software to work under OS/2 2.11's Windows. The drivers say that I'm not running Windows in 386 Enhanched mode. All other windows programs say I AM using 386 Enhanced mode. When I installed the GUS software the installation program says something about "?????? WIN.INI QUIETLY" And other *.INI files too. I can not find anything about this in the manual. Is there a fix for this or is it just something I'm doing wrong? jjo@samson.mrih.no ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:48:59 -0600 From: Sesterhenn Steven J Subject: General MIDI set To all who know, I bought my GUS in June of 1993, have rev2.4 and install disks 2.06_. Does anyone know if this is the set that came with the full General MIDI compliant set of patches? Someone mentioned that 2.06 did, and I thought I didn't get the whole set, but just a set large enough to play the sample MID files that came with the card. I checked the 2.06 disk updates on FTP and they are dated May 93. Does anyone know for sure if I have them, or a way to check for that matter? Thanks for any and all help, Steve Sesterhenn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 08:47:51 -0500 (EST) From: "M. Wells" Subject: Gravis Ads in new mags! Yeah! I opened my newest edition of "WIRED" and what do I find, much to my great surprise? An ad for the GUS MAX!!!! It seems that Gravis has lifted their ad ban... and I like what they came up with. the title says "WHY THE 'F' IN FM SOUND BOARDS MEANS 'FAKE.'" Subtile aren't they... :) other great quotes from this ad include: "all good things must come to an end" "Even Van Gogh could appreciate the CD quality delivered by the MAX" "F(t)=A sin( 2 pi f.t t ) + I sin(2 pi f.t) This is the mathematical formula used by the FM soundboards to create the sound of a piano. We prefer to record a real piano." "{picture of 8 track tapes deleted} FM synthesis originated when people thought these sounded good. Need we say more?" "With a full 192 instrument MIDI, you could become the world's next great composer. Or not." "In fact, PC journalist John C. Dvorak wrote, '... the UltraSound has a Sound Blaster emulation mode so good that it sounds better than the Sound Blaster itself.'" It's a great add with lots of humor and SoundBlaster blows in it. It is definately eye catching and I'm happy with the ads. Someone said that they have also run these ads in Computer gaming world and some other game magazines. 3 cheers for Gravis!!! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 12:56:08 CST From: cowles@hydra.convex.com (John Cowles) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #43 hach@oracle.dwh.de writes: > Subject: cakewalk - not enough mem on your card? > > Hi, > > I just tested cakewalk (midi prg. for windows) with my GUS. > It's sure a great peace of software BUT, if I try to load a big midi file, > Cakewalk reports 'There's not enough memory on your soundcard to hold all > patches' I don't understand this, because I can play these Midi-Files > with playmidi from dos!? > > I've a GUS with 1024 kb! > > Thanks in advance ..... > Cakewalk for Windows, V2.0 has a small buglet which confuses the program when there is a program change of any sort on channel 10 (the drum channel). Version 2.01, which will ship within the next 10 days, has supposedly fixed this problem. In the meantime, just remove any program (or patch) change information from any track sending to channel 10 and you'll be fine. John -- John Cowles cowles@hydra.convex.com CompuServe: 72074,451 Convex Computer Corp. 214 497 4375 3000 Waterview Pkwy Richardson, Tx. 75080 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:37:01 -0500 (EST) From: Bryon Thur Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #43 Hi there! I've only had my GUS for about a month now and think it's the best thing since sliced bread, but I'm not crazy about the patches that came with it. I'd like to change some of them, especially the guitar ones. Can someone tell me the best guitar patches to get, and can I just copy them over the old patches? One other thing...I'd love to get my hands on a guitar patch that has a real Metallica-like crunch to it, as I'd like my Doom music to sound just a bit more 'metal' than it already does! Thanx in advance. Bryon bhthur@watarts.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:51:34 -0700 (MST) From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #44 > From: V128NKGA@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu > Subject: A different MIDI in Windows problem ... > > this particular problem mentioned. When I try to play a midi file under > windows, some files will play, but many won't. Even the ones that do play > are often missing some instruments (eg credits.mid of xwing is missing Obviously the patches are not being loaded. This is most likely 'cause you don't have a 1 meg GUS; it starts to load the patches, but when it runs out of memory, it can't load any more, so it just plays the song with the partial set of patches, and frequently (as Murphy would have it) the patch(es) that wasn't loaded is the lead part of the song. Solution: upgrade your ram; or select "conserve space" on the GUS driver control panel. Or, maybe you have some patches missing off the hard drive. Print out your ultrasnd.ini and look to make sure that every patch file that is listed is on your hard drive. If not, get them off your installation disks, using the "restore files" option. -- _______ KB7PWD (_ | |_) shawn.rutledge@asu.edu __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * C * virtual reality * GUS * techno * cyberspace * Internet * fusion * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 9:53:44 CST From: Daniel A Nielsen Subject: HELP! Megaem and Novell 7 Is there any way to get megaem work with novell 7? Usually I get an error msg from EMM386. The best I can do is get "not enough EMS available". Suggestions? I can't seem to get a subscription, so please try to send to me and the list. thanks dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:11:19 -0216 (GMT-2:16) From: "J.Waghorn" Subject: My MIDI won't come back :( Hi folks, Just a quickie Since I upgraded to Winslows 3.11 and GUS Install 3.1, I've lost the MIDI in Windows. The .WAVs play fine, but I can't get .MIDs to play at all. The info in the Gravis Manual for Install 2.06 is (to say the least) brief on troubleshooting, and I've been through all it's suggestions. So what should I be looking for in my config files ??? Regards Jason -- ************************************************************************* * Jason Waghorn * Tel: (+44) 091 515 2877 * * Research Assistant * Fax: (+44) 091 515 2703 * * School of Engineering and ***************************************** * Advanced Technology *Internet: j.waghorn@sunderland.ac.uk * * University of Sunderland * JANET: j.waghorn@uk.ac.sunderland * * Sunderland * BITNET: ts0jwa%uk.ac.sund@UKACRL * * SR1 3SD * * ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:04:41 -0700 (MST) From: Derek the Dweebosaurus Subject: NEC triple spin CD rom I am considering buying the new NEC triple speed CD-rom. Anybody know if it will work with GUS or any of its CD-ROM daughter cards? Does GUS have a SCSI interface or do I have to buy that separate or buy another sound card that has one such as the ProAudio Spectrum? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:51:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Adams" Subject: Re: note tieing using MidiSoft Recording Session for GUS On Sun, 20 Mar -1, GUS Server wrote: > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 19:45:00 EST > From: Akintunde Omitowoju > > I know this might now be the proper area to ask this question, but I was > wondering how to you do note ties in MidiSoft Recording Session for Windows? > > Akintunde Omitowoju Well when you select the note tool to manually place notes, a little dialog box should come up to let you select note velocity and a few other settings like duration of note, there should be a check off box in which you select tie to last note. Some of the older verions that came with the GUS did not have this though, so yours might not. /*************************************************************************** * Robert Adams University of North Carolina at Greensboro * * adamsr@hamlet.uncg.edu Undergraduate * * adamsr@turing.uncg.edu Computer Science / Music * ***************************************************************************/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 18:13:03 GMT+1 From: Subject: optifix.zip Where can I find the file optifix.zip? On which ftp-site? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:06:16 PST From: Subject: Patch Banks Hello. In Midisoft Recording Studio: how do I use patches that are in other banks than bank zero? (in ultrasnd.ini) There is an option to choose different bank numbers, but it has no effect. Thanks a lot. Emil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:37:04 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: PCM or DSP > I was reading in PCFormat that the UltraSound uses DSP based wave > table as opposed to the more advanced PCM wave table... Unfortunately, I have little idea what the terms PCM and DSP actually mean. What I have in mind is that PCM is a method of compressing waveform data so that it occupies less memory or disk space. The GUS does not perform any hardware compression or decompression - samples are stored in its memory exactly 'as is'. (Maybe the rumoured 'son of GUS' can do some of these things.) DSP? Well the GUS certainly processes samples digitally! It cannot however produce e.g. reverb or chorus effects which are sometimes described as 'signal processing'. The GUS is really quite a simple device. Samples are loaded into its memory, and it plays them, up to 32 at once, and with control over rate and amplitude. Thats all there is to it, and this leads to great versatility in what software can get it to do. OK - compressed samples might be good, but there is no reason why they shoud SOUND any different. This is perhaps more important with a ROM based card, where you CANNOT load new samples, and hence as many as possible must be packed into the amount of ROM available. It's time these magazines learned the difference between ROM and RAM based cards. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 11:33:30 MET From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 1 day ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 gaia.ucs.orst.edu (tcp)... Deferred: Network is unreachable gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu... Deferred: Network is unreachable ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by wing2.wing.rug.nl (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA13859; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 11:33:31 +0100 Subject: SC2000 & DOOM To: gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 11:33:30 MET Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] > I wanted to know how Gravis got SimCity 2000 to work with the 32bit > AIL. I don't seem to be able to get it to work. I have one meg. on > board RAM and I followed all the instruction. The problem is that I > am getting garbage and random sound samples. This happens whenever a SC2000 works fine with me (DMA 5, IRQ 11). Do you have GAIL3214? You should NOT use SBOS, ULTRAMID or MEGAEM. Just edit the 'sc2000.cfg' manually. Set the [MidiBank] to GM. > > Also when playing Doom I sometimes get slowdowns in the music. I have > a dx2-66 and a 1meg gus on 220,1,1,7,5. Should I change dma or irq? This is not a soundboard problem. DMA is used only at startup (DMXINIT). DOOM v1.2 supports all IRQ's (I'm using IRQ11 myself). It's a memory problem. Don't use TSR's or memory managers (like EMM386, 386MAX & QEMM). I'll save memory. Also, I think that DMA 0-3 have higher priority than DMA 4-7. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:35:26 +1000 (EST) From: Mr KS Yap Subject: Sierra's 32 Bit AIL Driver ? Hi, I wrote to Sierra recently to ask about the progress of the 32 Bit AIL driver, and the following is the reply : ******************** Hello, Technical Support does not have Gravis Ultra Sound drivers for the DOS versions of our SCI32 products at this time, nor do we know when, or if, such drivers will be released. At this time, GUS users can play these games in Windows, assuming that the correct GUS drivers have been installed in the Windows environment. With the correct GUS drivers installed, GK works great in Windows. If and when such drivers are available, they will be posted on our BBS and AOL and will be available through our Technical Support epartment. However, at this time they are not available and we have no information about when these drivers may become available. We really don't know when these drivers will be out, if at all (contrary to what other may have said!) ************************* Disappointing, isn't it ? I thought Sierra have done a pretty good job with 16 Bit AIL driver, I really wonder why they suddenly seems to lose their interest with GUS (I actually want to wait for the driver so that I can play Gabriel Knight with it, BTW do anyone knows if GB plays allright in Windows?). And do anyone has any info. regarding the above message, or have I been mislead by the techinal support stuff. Shan ksyap1@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au Share and Prosper. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:12:03 -0700 (MST) From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" Subject: wontwork.mid > I'll be loading one of the midi files that won't play under windows > onto archive.epas.utoronto.ca in pub/pc/ultrasound/submit under the file > name wontwork.mid. Please take a look at it if you get a chance, and see > if you can get any sound out of it in windows (btw, it's really the midi > 1moretry). That particular file doesn't have the patches defined in the midi file! But when I opened it up in Cakewalk and assigned patches it played fine. What also works is to first open patch manager and load the piano, then run media player and play the mid, then immediately switch back to patch manager and click on the piano patch in the top right window. It will then proceed to play whatever is on the midi stream using that patch. I still doubt that this is the problem with all your mids that don't play, though. -- _______ KB7PWD (_ | |_) shawn.rutledge@asu.edu __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * C * virtual reality * GUS * techno * cyberspace * Internet * fusion * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 00:22:34 -0500 From: Doug Tooley Subject: Re: XMI.ARJ }I ftp'd XMI.ARJ off of epas after the validation from the game directory, }but when I uncompressed it, it had errors! And ARJ doesn't have any fix }utility like PKZIP! Well, then I d-loaded it off of orst.edu, but since }it had already copied from epas, it was also corrupted. }Could it be upoaded again please? I beg to differ. ARJ *does* have a fix utility. Like just about every other ARJ command it's in the ARJ.EXE program itself: ARJ u -jr filename (update, recover... or -jr1 for badly damaged) RTFM. Just the same, I would recommend re-downloading it since any damaged archive has almost always lost information. (possible exception: UC2) But that wasn't GUS related... so I'll add this: THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX THX (eye-catcher) I will be posting the THX "logo" sound to alt.binaries.sounds.misc some point in the next few days. I will also be uploading the files to wuarchive.wustl.edu probably in the /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/sound/THX directory. After that, I will be accepting requests for emailed versions. But be warned: these sound files are all quite large. (.WAV format) Have Fun! -- Doug Tooley 4B Co-Op CS/C&O student at U of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada djtooley@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca | doug@io.org GCS d++@(--) -p c++@ l(+) u+(++) e+(*) m+ s n+ h-(*) f+ !g w+ t+(++) r@ y+ "No Silicon Heaven? Preposterous! Where would all the calculators go?"--Kryten ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 09:13:40 EST From: ballen@ejv.com (Bill Allen) Somebody from Germany writes: >I would like to by a midi-keyboard for use with my GUS! >I'm completely new to the midi-keyboard stuff, so I need your recommend >for the purchase! > >What do I have to buy? > >Do I just need a plain keyboard to play the patches loaded to the GUS? >Or is it better to buy a real 'instrument' with CPU RAM etc.? >What do I have to invest? >What do I have to consider? There is an excellent writeup concerning midi equipment, but especially keyboards on the ftp sites. It is called GUSmidi_shopping.FAQ. Same writer from Germany: >I just tested cakewalk (midi prg. for windows) with my GUS. >It's sure a great peace of software BUT, if I try to load a big midi file, >Cakewalk reports 'There's not enough memory on your soundcard to hold all >patches' I don't understand this, because I can play these Midi-Files >with playmidi from dos!? I've experienced the same problem. Midi files that work fine using Midi Session when loaded into Cakewalk don't have enough memory. Anybody understand why this would be true? Bill ballen@ejv.com ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V11 #45 *******************************